Black Swan - possible new project

[lainy]

Oscars 2010: Slipping Through Cracks

Barbara Hershey and Winona Ryder from Black Swan. Yes, Mila Kunis is very good as the darker half to Natalie Portman’s black swan, but Hershey is playing against type in a vanity-free performance. While Jackie Weaver and Melissa Leo are getting lots of attention for their work as evil mothers, Hershey is being ignored. There is so much going on there, with sadness, anger, envy – all under the surface. She is the perfect explanation for why Nina is the way she is. Also turning in great work, playing against type is Ryder as the former prima ballerina. While it’s true that there can only be so many nominees, and the majority tend to rally around one contender, it’s worth remembering the other dark-haired wonders in the film.

Yes, Barbara and Winona gave excellent, powerful performances, but they don't deserve the nom over Mila, especially since she was great in her role. It's like Girl, Interrupted. Sure, it is unfortunate that Angelina won an award while Winona did not, since she was the star of the film, but did you really see someone else getting the best supporting actress nom for that movie? Whoopi? I don't think so; she had less scenes, despite performing well. Are there other popular movies where a less obvious supporting actress/actor was nominated for the Oscar? I don't have the best movie history knowledge if I didn't see the movie myself, so please share if you know off hand. I'd like to hear about them.

[CHRIS B]

Oscars 2010: Slipping Through Cracks

Barbara Hershey and Winona Ryder from Black Swan. Yes, Mila Kunis is very good as the darker half to Natalie Portman’s black swan, but Hershey is playing against type in a vanity-free performance. While Jackie Weaver and Melissa Leo are getting lots of attention for their work as evil mothers, Hershey is being ignored. There is so much going on there, with sadness, anger, envy – all under the surface. She is the perfect explanation for why Nina is the way she is. Also turning in great work, playing against type is Ryder as the former prima ballerina. While it’s true that there can only be so many nominees, and the majority tend to rally around one contender, it’s worth remembering the other dark-haired wonders in the film.

Yes, Barbara and Winona gave excellent, powerful performances, but they don't deserve the nom over Mila, especially since she was great in her role. It's like Girl, Interrupted. Sure, it is unfortunate that Angelina won an award while Winona did not, since she was the star of the film, but did you really see someone else getting the best supporting actress nom for that movie? Whoopi? I don't think so; she had less scenes, despite performing well. Are there other popular movies where a less obvious supporting actress/actor was nominated for the Oscar? I don't have the best movie history knowledge if I didn't see the movie myself, so please share if you know off hand. I'd like to hear about them.

Well, off the top of my head, I can think of three... Judi Dench in "Shakespeare in Love," Ruby Dee in "American Gangster" and Viola Davis in "Doubt."

[kashyy]

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BAFTA 2011 Awards Longlist

Supporting Actress          
Amy Adams (Charlene Fleming) – The Fighter *
Barbara Hershey (Erica Sayers / The Queen) – Black Swan *
Ellen Page (Ariadne) – Inception
Geraldine James (Connie) – Made In Dagenham
Helena Bonham Carter (Queen Elizabeth) – The King’s Speech *
Helena Bonham Carter (Red Queen) – Alice In Wonderland
Lesley Manville (Mary) – Another Year *
Marion Cotillard (Mal) – Inception
Melissa Leo (Alice Ward) – The Fighter
Mila Kunis (Lily / The Black Swan) – Black Swan
Miranda Richardson (Barbara Castle) – Made In Dagenham *
Olivia Williams (Ruth Lang) – The Ghost
Rebecca Hall (Claire Keesey) – The Town
Rosamund Pike (Lisa Hopkins) – Made In Dagenham
Winona Ryder (Beth Macintyre / The Dying Swan) – Black Swan

Members then vote a final time in January 18th to determine the winners (some categories are voted for by only the specialist chapter in their category), which will be announced on Feb 13.

[ty]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!


BAFTA 2011 Awards Longlist

Supporting Actress          
Amy Adams (Charlene Fleming) – The Fighter *
Barbara Hershey (Erica Sayers / The Queen) – Black Swan *
Ellen Page (Ariadne) – Inception
Geraldine James (Connie) – Made In Dagenham
Helena Bonham Carter (Queen Elizabeth) – The King’s Speech *
Helena Bonham Carter (Red Queen) – Alice In Wonderland
Lesley Manville (Mary) – Another Year *
Marion Cotillard (Mal) – Inception
Melissa Leo (Alice Ward) – The Fighter
Mila Kunis (Lily / The Black Swan) – Black Swan
Miranda Richardson (Barbara Castle) – Made In Dagenham *
Olivia Williams (Ruth Lang) – The Ghost
Rebecca Hall (Claire Keesey) – The Town
Rosamund Pike (Lisa Hopkins) – Made In Dagenham
Winona Ryder (Beth Macintyre / The Dying Swan) – Black Swan

Members then vote a final time in January 18th to determine the winners (some categories are voted for by only the specialist chapter in their category), which will be announced on Feb 13.

 

[CHRIS B]

Unlikely to happen, but still fun to see!

[lainy]

Oscars 2010: Slipping Through Cracks

Barbara Hershey and Winona Ryder from Black Swan. Yes, Mila Kunis is very good as the darker half to Natalie Portman’s black swan, but Hershey is playing against type in a vanity-free performance. While Jackie Weaver and Melissa Leo are getting lots of attention for their work as evil mothers, Hershey is being ignored. There is so much going on there, with sadness, anger, envy – all under the surface. She is the perfect explanation for why Nina is the way she is. Also turning in great work, playing against type is Ryder as the former prima ballerina. While it’s true that there can only be so many nominees, and the majority tend to rally around one contender, it’s worth remembering the other dark-haired wonders in the film.

Yes, Barbara and Winona gave excellent, powerful performances, but they don't deserve the nom over Mila, especially since she was great in her role. It's like Girl, Interrupted. Sure, it is unfortunate that Angelina won an award while Winona did not, since she was the star of the film, but did you really see someone else getting the best supporting actress nom for that movie? Whoopi? I don't think so; she had less scenes, despite performing well. Are there other popular movies where a less obvious supporting actress/actor was nominated for the Oscar? I don't have the best movie history knowledge if I didn't see the movie myself, so please share if you know off hand. I'd like to hear about them.

Well, off the top of my head, I can think of three... Judi Dench in "Shakespeare in Love," Ruby Dee in "American Gangster" and Viola Davis in "Doubt."

Nice! The only one I have seen Shakespeare in Love, years ago, but of course I don't remember how much screen time Judi Dench had :\ Oh, well. That's great that Winona is listed on that BAFTA list. I think Barbara is be more likely to win than her, though. No offense; I obviously love Winona.

[lainy]

Oscars 2010: Slipping Through Cracks

Barbara Hershey and Winona Ryder from Black Swan. Yes, Mila Kunis is very good as the darker half to Natalie Portman’s black swan, but Hershey is playing against type in a vanity-free performance. While Jackie Weaver and Melissa Leo are getting lots of attention for their work as evil mothers, Hershey is being ignored. There is so much going on there, with sadness, anger, envy – all under the surface. She is the perfect explanation for why Nina is the way she is. Also turning in great work, playing against type is Ryder as the former prima ballerina. While it’s true that there can only be so many nominees, and the majority tend to rally around one contender, it’s worth remembering the other dark-haired wonders in the film.

Yes, Barbara and Winona gave excellent, powerful performances, but they don't deserve the nom over Mila, especially since she was great in her role. It's like Girl, Interrupted. Sure, it is unfortunate that Angelina won an award while Winona did not, since she was the star of the film, but did you really see someone else getting the best supporting actress nom for that movie? Whoopi? I don't think so; she had less scenes, despite performing well. Are there other popular movies where a less obvious supporting actress/actor was nominated for the Oscar? I don't have the best movie history knowledge if I didn't see the movie myself, so please share if you know off hand. I'd like to hear about them.

Well, off the top of my head, I can think of three... Judi Dench in "Shakespeare in Love," Ruby Dee in "American Gangster" and Viola Davis in "Doubt."

Nice! The only one I have seen Shakespeare in Love, years ago, but of course I don't remember how much screen time Judi Dench had :\ Oh, well. That's great that Winona is listed on that BAFTA list. I think Barbara is be more likely to win than her, though. No offense; I obviously love Winona.

[CHRIS B]

Judi Dench had about 8 mins screen time!

[CHRIS B]

  posted in the wrong thread!

[CHRIS B]

Interivew with Natalie Portman about Winona!

LfF: What was it like to work with Winona Ryder (who plays the ballet company’s previous Swan Queen, who usurped by Nina’s casting, spirals into self destruction)? Was she someone you looked up to, growing up as an actress?

Absolutely. I think I’ve probably watched her more than any other actress. If you think about how many great movies in which she had the lead role… I don’t think there’s any actress that can compare. Between, you know… Mermaids and Heathers and Beetlejuice and Edward Scissorhands and Reality Bites and ummm Dracula, Age of Innocence, Little Women… It’s crazy when you think about it. Most actresses have one of those movies. She’s really iconic and I was really excited to get to work with her and she was amazing. She was kind and professional and patient, because you know there were days when she’d have to wait around for a long time. She just was completely humble and wonderful, and to watch her turn on such extreme emotions so quickly – it was just an honour to watch her work and I hope I get another chance.

[vulcannonibird]

My Back Swan review - some Spoilers:

"I'm not perfect ... I'M NOTHING!"

Black Swan is a great tour de force for a wonderful ensemble of actors. Natalie Portman doing the role of her
lifetime - the best I've ever seen from her. Winona, only having a handful of scenes, delivering perfectly.
But also Mila Kunis, Barbera Hershey and Vincent Cassel are on top of their art - you would love to give
everyone an award - but sadly there aren't enough to give out. Hoping for the Best Acting Ensemble at the
SAG Awards.

A little more on Winona - some spoilers: Winona, like in GI, really lets go in two of her scenes - as she's
smashing up her dressing-room and as she stabs herself in the hospital - Darren Arronowsky knows how to
bring this great performance out of Winona, not many directors do.

Natalie and Winona were not only great - they were shokingly great with mesmerizing and at times frightening
performances.

And like in some movies before they've big trouble making Winona look ugly: In the hospital they made her
look really banged up - and a guy sitting next to me in the cinema whispered to his girlfirend "She still
looks hot as hell!".

Next to beeing a great movie this also opens up a new world to viewers. I've never been to the ballet nor cared
much about it. This movie really opened a window into this fascinating world - while also showing how destructive
it is to the dancers.

[vulcannonibird]

As it looks Black Swan has far more copies than The Dilemma here in germany....

[CHRIS B]

Well at least Winona (for the first time) is featured in a Best Picture Nominee!

[oinone]

Oscar nominees are announced. Nothing for even Kunis and Hershey.

and for Nolan. I don't like the nominees this year. Good for Black Swan and Bardem and John Hawkes. But The Social Network?!??
I know it's wrong place to discuss but I still can't believe that Fincher will finally win but with his second worst movie! Sorry guys I can't see that you did saw in this film.

[vulcannonibird]

For me The Social Network would fit into the Documentary / Docu-Fiction category but not into beeing a dramatized fiction. And on second: I quite dislike all thios Web 2.0 and Cloud stuff....